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| Greetings,
My idea for the Moran plant ties together the historical
heritage of the waterfront and the city's already announced
plans for recreational facilities. By following this plan, the
city would create an icon for itself on that land.
Over one hundred years ago, approximately 1860, the original
Union Station was built on land nearby. A glorious building, it
formed the centerpiece of the city, hosting visits by more than
one President to Burlington. I've attached a photo of this
building in case you're not familiar.
The city has proposed the development of an aqua center at
Leddy Park, and has stated the need for more recreational
facilities. In fact, the Department of Parks and Recreation has
proposed over 6 million dollars for this purpose.
My proposal is to build a facsimile of the original Union
Station in much the same way as the Burlington Boat House was
re-created some years ago. It could serve as the centerpiece for
various festivals and events, even becoming a symbol and gateway
to the city from the waterfront. The interior of the building
could be designed as a recreational facility, incorporating a
new city swimming pool. This facility would be paid for
utilizing a 10 million dollar 30 year bond issue, which would be
less than half of what the city paid recently for a new sewage
treatment system.
This proposal is financially sound, incorporates city plans,
beautifies the waterfront, ties in historically, and increases
community. I hope you take this under serious consideration.
Kevin Ryan
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| Hi Nick -
What I heard most in objection to the Moran Plant was that
people didn't like a private, Christian organization taking it
over for a $1 lease - to benefit those people who can afford
memberships. They wanted something available to all
Burlingtonians. As a regular Y user, I personally know that the
Y isn't really a "christian" organization the way these people
meant it, but I couldn't convince people otherwise. Also, as
someone who has easily gotten financial aid from the Y, despite
my high income, I know that they really do try to make their
services available to everyone. In my case, that meant looking
at my whole debt load and not just my income - I am very
grateful for that. But I don't think many non-Y users understood
the true nature of the organization. In any case, from what I
heard, it wasn't the use of the building as an athletic facility
that bothered people, but more who was owning it (private,
religious) and who would have access (only those who could
afford it).
As I argued with my brother, he brought up the idea of a
City-owned indoor pool that is open to all Burlingtonians. I
love this idea. Maybe with a more professional outdoor skating
rink? Other athletic facilities? i love the building, having
lived on Lakeview Terrace in high school and watched its
blinking lights. I would love to see it preserved, and whatever
its use, have it be public, not private. I am not convinced that
razing it and making it public land would bring people down the
waterfront that far. If the Y really does leave Burlington, we
would sorely need another downtown athletic facility with a pool
or two, one that is more affordable and more accessible on foot
or bike than twin oaks and the like.
Thanks for asking our opinion & good luck!
Sarah Woodard |
| Mr. Warner, Hello. My basic
view is that the Moran site should remain a public
space for everyone now and for many generations to
come and that we should think grand and worry about
the dollars later. To that end, here's my idea:
Tear down the plant and build a large (though not
as tall as moran plant) glass conservatory with the
adjacent land an arboretum filled with local
flowers / shrubs / trees, fountains and curvy pathways.
I call it the Lake Champlain Conservatory and
Arboretum.
What are the advantages of a state of the art
green house on the waterfront?
1. A place for residents to experience native or
tropical plants indoors in the winter (and all
year.) Winters can be so dreary here. Wouldn't it be
great to have a lush, warm place right here in the
heart of Vermont's largest city to spend some time
with greenery -- and perhaps learn a thing or two?
2. Another great reason for tourists to
visit -- and a great counter-part to the ECCO center.
An aquarium is great, but an aquarium AND an indoor
garden a block away is better! I believe it would
draw many people to Burlington on it's own, but also
along with waterfront festivals, ECCO, Shelburne and
Maritime Museums.
3. A hands on indoor / outdoor place for school
children to learn about plants and conservation -- a
great and conveniently located place for a field
trip.
4. The Lake Champlain Conservatory and Arboretum
could be run by a non-profit and staffed mostly by
volunteers and college students studying biology.
5. Besides a few small green houses at garden
centers, Vermont has no large indoor gardens.
6. I think it would be quite fitting to take the
old hulking remnant of Burlington's past and replace
it with something beautiful that everyone could
enjoy--and unlike the YMCA, one wouldn't have to be
a member or be physically inclined to enjoy a visit.
Of course, the biggest question is who would pay
for it. I don't have an answer, except to point to
recent funding sources for ECCO and the Louise
McClure. But who knows....Five years from now on a
wicked cold January day, I could take my young son
to experience a little peace and warmth and
greenery -- just down the hill by the lake.
Thank you for the opportunity for input!
greg goetsch |
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Auction for residential development according to
prescribed parameters. Residents are necessary for a
vibrant safe neighborhood; the cash could go to
underground the overhead wires, which ties back to
the original use as a BED asset. The units will help
the tax base.
Samuel Press |
| A good start would be to tear the building
down. Then possibly Marina with boating slips.
Thanks,
John Kiehl |
| Hi Folks:
I read with interest Maurice Mahoney's remarks in the paper
today. I guess he and his group have already decided what they
want to do at the Moran site. So much for facilitating or even
sitting this one out and listening as they had said. Perhaps his
group's name should be "Let My People Decide."
His suggestion of tearing down the Plant and leaving the area
as open space may prove to be what the public wants; if so,
great. My only concern is that his group's efforts, focusing on
their idea, do not eclipse the process the City is setting up to
solicit all ideas and then allow citizens to make a specific
choice. His talk of "if this process does not go anywhere" he
will bring forth a ballot question has me wondering how he would
define "not going anywhere." I wonder if he will believe that
the process is not going anywhere if there is not a consensus
early on to tear the Plant down and leave the land for open
space. If Maurice's potential ballot question were to go down,
we still would not know what the public wants, we would just
know about another proposal that it does not want. I think
making sure the process gets a chance is something we all have
to be vigilant about and perhaps discuss further.
Best,
Peter |
| Mr. Warner, how about "The Joe Burrell Performing Arts
Center." Higher Ground went to So. Burlington. It is time
Burlington had a first rate, possibly indoor / outdoor, center for
the arts. I picture something like The Dibdon Center at JSC with
an amphitheatre and equal acoustics. Maybe BTV could steal the
Mozart Festival too!
Sam Faris. |
| In all cases below as a first step tear the building down
1. a public picnic area
2. a public garden
3. a public garden with shrub maze for kids (and adults)
4. Just plant grass
5. don't turn the water front into one big docking and mooring
area. keep it open.
6. don't do any more building development on the waterfront. We
don't need more stores on this sacred resource. |
| Hello,
My opinion on this is that it should be torn down and a nice
park be put in. We don't have enough open spaces in the city.
Thanks,
Brent Grenier |
| I strongly supported the plan to relocate the YMCA at the
Moran plant and still do. It is my hope that the outcome of this
process will be the adoption of that original plan. As a
resident of Burlington since 1991 and a user of the waterfront
and the Y since then as well, I think it is the best possible
use of the space and that portion of the waterfront.
Deborah Lashman |
| Hello Mr. Warner,
At the very least, the plant should be torn down and
converted to a green space / park area, similar to what already
exists on the waterfront. Ideally some sort of performing arts
center, such as SPAC or Tanglewood, should be built when funding
allows. Passenger train service and public boat moorings could
be utilized as alternative modes of travel. This would help
alleviate traffic and create more of a unique experience for
visitors. The era of using waterfront property for commercial
and industrial purposes has come to pass.
Thanks,
Peter Kapusta |
| Hi Nick-
I think that Burlington would benefit by turning the Moran
Plant into a diversity center that celebrates the many cultures
that exist in and around Burlington.
Chris |
| My top preference is for the Moran Plant to be torn down,
the site cleaned up from any environmental pollution, and the
area kept as an open green space. The Lake Champlain Community
Sailing Center should be kept in its current location, either
with its current building section renovated or a new building
purpose built at the same place.
Thora Chadwick |
| Tear it down and put up a Ferris Wheel in a small park.
Tracy Meier & Pat Cook |
| Tear down the Moran Plant. Put a casino with a civic center
on that spot. Make them tax exempt and take a percentage of
their profit. Sell or implode the auditorium. Move the YMCA next
to KMart. If you build it they will come.
Ken Vachereau |
| 1. Tear it down and leave it green.
2. Build a performing arts shell that can be used 50-60% of
the year, as an alternative to Memorial Auditorium and Flynn
Theater.
3. Change the Land Trust Limitations on the property to allow
for commercial development and then seek some beneficial
proposals.
Alan Sousie |
| Hi, regarding Moran, I would love to see the development of
a community center with an ecological focus. Some activities
that could an educational
arena for the development of freedom of expression in radio,
film, documentary, books, magazines, and the arts which could
also help pay for the cost of running the center. I think
building a central large scale diverse independent media center
will help spread free speech , ideas, and solutions to social
problems both locally and around the world. One last word. I
don't believe it is in the best interest of " everyone" in
supporting" privatization" of public property to create another
"YMCA" of a diverse community of both religious and nonreligious
origins, or privatization of public supported property for
profit before people. |
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