Mayor Bob Kiss (Fall 2006)

Held under the same tent that was used for the “Moran Idea Night” in 2006, this event was part of a public process that has been ongoing since 2005, after voters turned down a proposal for a YMCA at Moran. Below, see the drawings and comments gathered at the event. If you cannot download these images, please contact CEDO (802-865-7144), and they will be sent to you via US mail in CDROM and/or printed formats.

Comparative Budget Estimates:  It is very difficult to create viable construction estimates from conceptual sketches.  There are many variables that cannot be evaluated without complete construction drawings. These estimates have been prepared utilizing per-square-foot costs based on national averages combined with recent estimating work on demolition and infrastructure.  COSTS ARE ONLY FOR COMPARISON BETWEEN CONCEPTS.

• Remove entire Moran building to one foot below grade
• Backfill with topsoil, seed and mulch
• Replace Moran with plantings, open lawn space, and park amenities typical of Waterfront Park to the south
• Relocate Community Sailing Center to unspecified waterfront site

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Building Removal	$1,200,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$3,700,000

Comments:

• I think the Moran is a landmark and should not be completely demolished if possible.
• All ideas are interesting, but the final design should definitely include a large public park.
• Great idea. Expand skatepark for kids.
• We have enough in the North 40.
• Yes. Keep it open.
• Don't like. Already have one. Not worth the money.
• Yes. Park open, open space needed with population growth in Burlington.
• Need to keep sailing center. We can do better.
• Concept #3 provides a better return on investment.
• No sailing center access. Bad idea.
• Pricing should include sailing center (#4) or money for relocation.
• No.
• Wasted opportunity. Urban reserve is available.
• This plan seems to be the most reasonable. The plant should come down! It is an eyesore. Park space is important for all of us - and much more inviting when coming from the lake to the shore.
• This is my favorite option. It reduces the current ongoing maintenance costs and leaves the site available for future uses and provides additional park land.
• 16,000 sq.ft. more is not necessary. The 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent to it is plenty.
• Most desired because most natural, peaceful, least amount of traffic problems, and least expensive.
• Open enough to host lots of activities.
• Clearly, minimal creative effort was put into a conceptual drawing for a park. I wish a landscape designer had been given as much latitude for design as the other drawings show. My vision is one of walking paths within heavily treed spaces with a swath of open space all along the lakefront edge. I am very disappointed in the boring, empty "park" depicted in Concept #1.
• Nice, but the sailing center needs to stay!
• Pros: Encourages outdoor activities and open space for various events. Cons: We have plenty of park spaces (i.e., Oakledge (family-oriented), Smalley Park, Coolidge Park, Battery Park).
• I'd like to see some use of the building. Transporation: Public transportation must be extended to this area, including Sundays. Minimum parking lot to reduce pollution.
• If you can't do some variation of Plan #7, I like to see this.
• I also like a park idea, but not as much as #3.
• I think the building should stay! Restoration of an old building is important for communities.
• I like this idea - open green space for everyone...
• No. Dead all winter long. Not much use in summer. Totally dead concept.
• There is enough park land underutilized.
• A cultural civic center on this site would be ideal here for both resident and financial gain. Good to replace Memorial Auditorium
• Demolish the derelict eyesore, take away polluted debris, and let grass and wildflowers grow.
• Combine 1, 2 & 3.
• Tear it down. I was born 2 miles north of Moran the year it began operation: 1953. I support the green park idea. No more commercialism, 50' from waters edge. Benches, sculpture, a fountain, restrooms, trash receptacles, flowering gardens, trees (i.e. Boathouse). I have no objections to concert shell and sailing center, however.
• I feel that adaptive re-use is the way to take advantage of what we have. With the other options below, I think that removing everything would be a shame.
• Good idea. Yes. Leave sculpture garden.
• Good idea, plus seems to be cheapest version.
• I like this - keep sculpture.
• Don't need so much more open land along lake. We have Waterfront Park.
• Keep in mind the principle of "less is more." Let's optimize open space and as much view of the lake as possible.
• If you can't do rec center, then this is a good option.
• Nice plan. Basic. Need to demolish Moran Plant! Allows open space for future development.
• I like the idea of a public park. One thing that is missing in our waterfront parks are restrooms - not attached to a restaurant.
• Seems like underutilization of site, especially moving out sailing center.
• Great! Keeps space open. Doesn't add a lot of parking.

Concept #2 - Community and Recreation Center

• Construct 60,000 square foot Community and Recreation Center in the Moran that might include:
  • Family Aquatic Center
  • Recreation Offices/Multipurpose Rooms
  • Gym/Fitness Equipment Area
  • Rock Climbing Area
  • Space for teens
  • Walking/Jogging Track
  • Snack Bar
• Construct new 16,000 square foot Community Sailing Center at the north end of the site.

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Construct 60,000 square foot new Community and Recreation Center that might include:
  • Family Aquatic Center
  • Recreation Offices/Multipurpose Rooms
  • Gym/Fitness Equipment Area
  • Rock Climbing Area
  • Space for teens
  • Walking/Jogging Track
  • Snack Bar
• Construct new 16,000 square foot Community Sailing Center at the north end of the site.

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Construction	$16,250,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$18,750,000

Comments:

• I like this best.
• Great use of space.  Accessible to all.
• Much needed for our community with the other concepts (1, 3 & 4), complementing the community center. Parking still issue. Public transit a must.
• Sounds expensive and other local gyms are available.
• Too expensive.
• No - too much traffic; better sites in town (eg. K-Mart, South End).
• My vote!
• Terrible idea. Community/Rec Center should be centrally located in the City. This concept would greatly increase vehicle traffic along the waterfront. Waste of waterfront land. Why does a center of this nature need to be on the water?
• Nice. Need to be thoughtful and deliberate about what goes into the building.
• No need to build this on the waterfront. Any building should be one that takes best advantage of the lake, not something that could be located anywhere.
• Separate sailing center interesting.
• Maybe, but with other uses that generate revenue to offset cost.
• A sailing, boating school for daily, weekly or monthly lease.
• The idea of a community recreation center is a great idea--but not in this location. Parking and road access cannot reasonably be provided without degrading park and bike path usage. P.S. What is the cost of building the new separate sailing center?
• Keep the structure. Garden on roof. Restaurant on top floor. Sailing center on water level area. Museum (whatever) in middle floor. Put a band shell in the 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent.
• Pretty building. Nice to see the sailing center included. How would we recreate?
• This is what was already eliminated.
• Don't like.
• Not in favor of too many people. Don't want too much traffic or congestion. YMCA was a bad idea!
• Pros: Space for teens to hang out (healthy activities). I would say it needs to be adequately staffed.  Cons: Petra Cliffs, YMCA competition (perhaps). This would or might affect local entities.
• Looks too much like Patrick Gym to me, though it's a nice building.
• No.
• This idea would be a great addition to the Burlington community. Pros: Area for family rec; ability to start new programs by waterfront; great way to encourage recreation and activity; would boost sailing center. Cons: Traffic in park.
• I don't think that the rec center needs to be located down on the waterfront!
• Yes - Year-round activity - makes use of indoor and outdoor activities that give life to waterfront all year. It should have indoor swimming, outdoor swimming, ice skating, fitness, sauna, and sailing. Parking and traffic are NOT the big problem they are made out to be.
• Year-round use is great. Something for everyone. Generate employment in construction and year-round use.
• The bike path is well known throughout US and Canada.
• Bad idea. No. Leave sculpture garden. Use as Veterans memorial.
• Bad idea.
• No. Bad idea. High cost.
• If $ no object - love this idea.
• We could enjoy a community/rec center. Citizen committees have definite need for rec center two times at least. Downside - how would we pay for? Would draw people to waterfront year-round.
• This is the best use of the site. There is a critical need for indoor rec space. Should work together to develop City/YMCA partnership to pull it off. Also maintain sailing center.
• So-so. Sounds like another YMCA. Who would staff it?
• We are in need of a public pool, but it would be a slap in the face to the YMCA to build a rec center!
• I like this concept, especially aquatic center. As a resident, I understand the tax implication.
• No. Should keep this beautiful site for outdoor activities. Burlington could use recreation building someplace else.

Concept #3 - Outdoor Concert Band Shell

If the Moran Partially Remains:

• Remove top section of Moran down to the old machine room floor level

• Construct "green roof" - a park-like setting with walks and plantings accessible to the public

• Keep the Community Sailing Center in the lower section of Moran under the "green roof"

• Advantages are the creation of new green space, keeping an important community asset, and the ability to build on top in the future

• Build band shell to face the lake between the Moran and the Urban Reserve to reduce the impact of sound on adjacent neighborhoods

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Remove entire Moran building to one foot below grade

• Backfill with topsoil seed and mulch

• Build band shell close to the new bus turn-around

• Design band shell to be big enough for Vermont Symphony Orchestra

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Construction	$800,000
Partial Removal of Moran	$800,000
Sailing Center	$840,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$4,940,000

Comments:

• I like this second.
• No.
• Maintains sailing center, adds concert with a lot of green space for good value!  This is it!
• This one is my vote.  In all of them turn around/dropoff should be covered.
• Have a concert hall up the hill. Waste.
• Maybe.
• I also like this idea.
• Great! Love the green roof! Band shell only good if for free concerts.
• Like it, although the building is unattractive. Would prefer to spend more on the building's aesthetics.
• I like the green roof concept and the band shell, but how is this different from Battery Park band shell - larger? If one goal is "maintaining ability to build on top in the future, maybe better to just retain Moran for possible space.
• Best use. The best of #1 and #4 and band shell.
• Don't we have one?
• A concert band shell is not needed and probably not economically viable. The summer concert scene is already having problems nationally with ticket sales. The VSO is great, but it's not going to compete with the BSO at Tanglewood or the NYO at Saratoga. Also, like concept 2, parking and traffic are incompatible with existing park and bike path access.
• Keep the structure. Garden on roof. Restaurant on top floor. Sailing center on water level area. Museum (whatever) in middle floor. Put a band shell in the 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent.
• Like this as well. Wonderful place to gather and listen to music - all ages. How would you handle traffic problems?
• How is this different from Battery Park band shell?
• Nowhere near the parking to support the 2,000-3,000 that should/might show up for a band shell show.
• I always wanted to see a better place for concerts, but we need a civic center on the waterfront with plenty of parking, easy to get in and out, not just for outdoor concerts.
• Not here.
• This is my vote! Great for displaying VT's great music. Keep Sailing Center!
• Cons: Battery Park has a similar band shell. There is not a need for this limited type of structure. Also, residents will complain about the noise.
• I like the park on the building. More trees, though.
• Love this concept to keep it green with the Sailing Center. Must keep LCCSC here.
• This is my first choice - great solution!
• I like the idea of a band shell on the waterfront. It adds a wonderful ambiance that is needed! #1 choice.
• I like this concept the best. I would, however, add to this an indoor/outdoor market to bring people down year-round. Many models for this in Montreal. Also like the green roof concept. No matter what, keep and expand the sailing center.
• No. We have a band shell that gets limited use - only a few days a week for 2-3 months a year.
• Band shell only useful 3-4 months and subject to weather. Is not a good investment.
• Yes. This will bring great tax revenue and attract shoppers to Church Street.
• I like this idea best. I believe the Sailing Center should stay and then combine with other public uses.
• O.K.
• Even though the Sailing Center would remain, I do not believe that spending $ no a band shell with another at Battery Park is the best use of funds.
• No. Too much parking.
• Bad idea.
• No - too expensive.
• Best on a budget that is limited. Would love to see an outdoor pool or "bubbled" pool added to this concept.
• The Battery Park band shell is not now fully utilized. We don't need another.
• No.
• We already have a band shell at Battery Park. Don't need another.
• Not enough parking. Neighbors will never let it happen.
• This is also a good idea, if price of #2 is too high.
• Good. Preserves open space.

Concept #4 - Community Sailing Center

If the Moran is Partially Demolished:

• Remove top section of Moran down to the old machine room floor level

• Construction "green roof" - a park-like setting with walks and plantings accessible to the public

• Keep the Community Sailing Center in the lower section of Moran under the "green roof"

• Advantages are the creation of new green space, keeping an important community asset, and the ability to build on top in the future

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Remove entire Moran building to one foot below grade

• Backfill with topsoil, seed and mulch

• Construct new Community Sailing Center (16,000 square feet) at the north end of site

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Partial Removal of Moran	$800,000
Sailing Center	$840,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$4,140,000

Comments:

• Yes. No other place to sail in Burlington. Need to take advantage of lake.
• A bit less money, so #2 alternative to #3 - best.
• Second choice.
• Second choice.
• Looks like a cool thing to do. Think that you need to keep the sailing center. It's a great part of the City. I was a founder of the High School team and it is growing. Please keep this center but make it better.
• Love the idea of the green roof and keeping the sailing center where it is. Don't move the sailing center! It's so important for the City. #4 definitely seems to be the most cost effective.
• Yes - keep sailing center - great resource.
• There is a youth sailing program. It would be a shame to displace them and other boating activities. Waterfront property is valuable, but boating is very necessary to have water, whereas most of the proposed concepts do not require water.
• Great! Love the green roof! CSC is most important community asset on this site. Should be supported and improved!
• Like it, although the building is unattractive. Would prefer to spend more on the building's aesthetics. Prefer #3.
• To me, green roof works if it's green - works less as place for potential future buildings. We could make it a "Community Safety Center."  Given its structure, it may be the safest place to go.
• The absolute best idea. There is no other option for small boat owners in Burlington.
• If City doesn't think it will use a band shell, otherwise #3 is the way to go.
• Fine. Maybe own facility or better facility.
• A sailing, boating school for daily, weekly or monthly lease.
• I like this concept as well (although #7 is my favorite). I think it is important to keep the sailing center, and I love the green roof.
• Keeping the first floor of the Moran Plant makes no aesthetic or financial sense. The resulting sailing center would be inferior to constructing a new sailing center. Again, it would be helpful to know what the cost of a new stand alone sailing center - here or elsewhere. Plus, who's paying for the sailing center - taxpayers or sailing enthusiasts?
• Keep the structure. Garden on roof. Restaurant on top floor. Sailing center on water level area. Museum (whatever) in middle floor. Put a band shell in the 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent.
• Nice.
• At $4 Million, this is a deal. The Sailing Center could accomplish that capital campaign of $840,000.
• Sounds very nice indeed. The community sailing center needs to stay here!
• Sounds the best out of 7.
• I actually like the Moran building! It's historical and, cleaned up, could stay here. Sailing center is great and belongs here. Waterfront activities fit with waterfront. Museums, etc. can be elsewhere. In general, don't want to see hordes of people and cars in this beautiful spot.
• This is a great nonprofit agency and community organization, but has a limited audience...so it would be best if the space could be more than the sailing center.
• Whatever the decision, keep the sailing center.
• Great idea with rooftop views for the public keeping sailing center on site. Must keep LCCSC here.
• No.
• A sailing center is nice, but can't be utilized fully all year-round.
• Sailing center needs to be relocated!
• I am in favor of this use. I think encouraging more traffic in the summer with a great sailing center and limiting traffic in winter.
• No. Limited to a small segment of population and limited to summer only.
• Sailing center is only ancillary activity useful less than 1/2 of year.
• This area is one of the top 10 scenic areas in U.S. and should be developed/preserved to utilize our prize waterfront. Sailing center for sailboats is a perfect fit for both resident and tourist viewpoint. Radio control sailing should be expanded as a national draw for tourist business.
• O.K.
• Yes - You do!
• Looks great - I love the green roof and believe that the sailing center is an important part of the Burlington Waterfront.
• Use smaller building for combined sailing center/winter house for public.
• Good idea to combine park with sailing center, plus seems to be one of the cheaper versions.
• #1. Keep sculpture. I like the idea of keeping the sailing center. Good cost.
• We need this in BTV on lakefront so keep it please.
• Like to keep sailing center, but prefer option 7.
• I would prefer that the sailing center be kept and combined multi-uses in the rest of the building (i.e., #6).
• I think this concept would be the best one overall since the costs are quite modest. However, you still have the option to incorporate any of the more "extravagant" concepts down-the-road while still using the area for parks & recreation in the interim.
• This plan leaves the sailing center. We already have a band shell at Battery Park. This leaves the place quite open for future development and takes down the higher part of the building - which part is an eyesore. I like the added infrastructure with parking and bathrooms. This is my favorite plan.
• The best plan, especially if the Moran Plant is demolished first, and then the sailing center is newly constructed.
• I also like the idea of a park and sailing center combined, but where would all the boats be stored?
• #3 is a better idea and not much more expensive.
• Good. Sailing center is appropriate for waterfront.

Concept #5 - Museum

If the Moran Partially Remains:

• Remove the top section of building, erect new museum facility on top of the old machine room floor

• Keep the Community Sailing Center in the Moran under the Museum structure

• Advantages are the creation of new green space, keeping an important community asset, and the ability to build on top in the future

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Remove entire Moran building

• Construct 16,000 square foot Museum on the Moran site

• Locate Community Sailing Center (16,000 square feet) on north end of the site

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Moran Removal	$1,200,000
Construction	$800,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$4,500,000

Comments:

• Bad idea.
• We don't need another venue that not everyone can afford.
• We don't need another museum now - maybe later. We already have Fleming Museum and the Echo Center. Need to have a sailing center.
• No.
• Maritime Museum would draw people to the waterfront year-round, and has an income stream which would help funding.
• I don't see need for museum.
• Bad idea.
• No. Prohibitive to general public use - not open space - not needed - Echo Center is there. Too expensive.
• Not.
• Can you get Vergennes Maritime to move here? If so, this could be a year-round attraction.
• 2nd choice. Better than summer only uses, but there is already one Museum on the waterfront.
• This is another pretty good idea, but not as good as #3.
• This is my second choice - I like the idea of a Lake Champlain Maritime Museum II closer than Ferrisburg!
• Keep structure. I'd really like to see a museum honoring the history of Burlington, maybe also Chittenden County. I like the idea of maritime museum too. How about both? Educational aspects for community. Grants to pay. Keep sailing center.
• I will be honest. This is an awful idea. We have the Fleming and the Echo and just 10 minutes away is Shelburne Museum. This does not set well with me.
• We have ECHO.
• History museums are struggling across the nation. This investment would require continued State and local money (substantial) for years to come.
• Beautiful building but boring. No focused activities.
• Like having a museum at this spot. Keep art alive for all ages is desperately needed! Like to keep the green space.
• Keep the structure. Garden on roof. Restaurant on top floor. Sailing center on water level area. Museum (whatever) in middle floor. Put a band shell in the 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent.
• This option has the same parking and traffic problems of other intense use options.
• A saving space for boats of 40 feet or 8-1/2 feet.
• Only in combo with other uses.
• No.
• Doesn't take advantage of lakefront.
• This would depend on what kind of museum. This probably isn't my favorite.
• There are better uses for this space than a museum. Least desirable proposal.
• Museum of what? There's already a Lake Champlain Museum in Panton. Why no green roof? Increased vehicle traffic would be bad for the waterfront park.
• #1 vote. This idea really appeals. The City of Burlington should have its own fine art museum. Can we combine the Art Museum, the Band Shell and a sailing center?
• First choice.
• If the money is there, it would be a stronger, all-year use for the building - another "bookend" to ECHO.  Create long-term use.
• No. ECHO is fine.
• I don't think we need another maritime museum in Vermont. We need a children's museum more like Montshire. ECHO doesn't really fill this need. Or perhaps a museum focusing on Vermont/Burlington history with some hands-on exhibits for younger visitors.
• No. Focus development next to the existing city buildings - keep area next to Urban [Reserve] open.

Concept #6 - Combination of Uses with Part of Moran

If the Moran Partially Remains:

• Remove top section of Moran down to the old machine room floor level

• Construct "green roof" - a park-like setting with walks and plantings accessible to the public

• Keep the Community Sailing Center in the lower section of Moran

• Advantages are the creation of new green space, keeping an important community asset, and the ability to combine several public uses

• Space for additional uses

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Remove entire Moran building to one foot below grade

• Backfill with topsoil, seed and mulch

• Relocate Community Sailing Center to unspecified waterfront site

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Partial Removal of Moran	$800,000
Multifunctional Building	$3,000,000
Sailing Center	$840,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$7,140,000

Comments:

• I like #3 better.
• Not happy with idea.
• Do not relocate sailing center to "unspecified" site.
• Rec center/sailing center.
• I like this because it keeps the old Moran Plant, still has some green roof, keeps sailing center, doesn't require demolition and still has park land. Has community multi-use building for community aspect.
• Bad idea.
• No. Tear it down.
• Not.
• Undefined use is poor planning. There area already enough "white elephants" on the waterfront.
• No. Too green - no clear winter use. Too limited to sailing.
• I don't really like this.
• No.
• I like this one - park like roof, multi-use, museum, atrium - this seems to use several of the ideas. Maybe increase trees, benches, etc. in sculpture garden. Build a small, ramped observation area on the roof park.
• N/A
• Sounds lovely indeed.
• General public use year-round would require a significant draw such as ECHO.
• Great building, but not a clear focus of the space.
• With this concept, I'd be worried about huge traffic problems.
• No.
• Tear it down. New construction will be more cost effective than retrofitting.
• Also fine idea.
• Use the entire structure.
• No.
• What's the point? Keep the sailing center as in #3 & #4. Anything else can be located elsewhere. Should have no commercial purpose.
• Why bother?
• Not as good as option 3.
• What other uses? No commercial!!!
• Third choice.
• No.
• I support this concept. It keeps the flavor of the lake with the sailing center yet enhances the use for people who do not sail. Also maintains open space for future needs.
• No. Green roof good. Keep sailing center in place.
• I like the multi-tier roof space - could be concert/band shell also.

Concept #7 - Combination of Uses in Moran

If the Moran Remains:

• Construct small "green roof" - accessible to the public

• Keep the Community Sailing Center in the lower section of Moran

• Advantages are the creation of new green space, keeping an important community asset, and the ability to combine several public uses

• Space for additional uses

If the Moran is Fully Demolished:

• Remove entire Moran building to one foot below grade

• Backfill with topsoil, seed and mulch

• Relocate Community Sailing Center to unspecified waterfront site

Comparative Cost Estimate:

Construction	$9,000,000
Infrastructure	$2,500,000
Total	$11,500,000

Comments:

• I like #2 better.
• Big, ugly, probably toxic building.
• Definitely remove Moran Plant.
• I like this concept best. I think the roof cover should be flat instead of curved.
• I like this because it keeps the old Moran Plant, still has some green roof, keeps sailing center, doesn't require demolition, and still has park land. Has community multi-use building for community aspect.
• We need to somehow make something that can self-support the cost.
• Bad idea.
• No. Tear it down.
• Not.
• Combine this building for #2, but move sailing center, since this is only seasonal. Would make Moran a year-round facility.
• No. Too green, no clear winter use. Too limited to sailing.
• Absolutely no!
• Last choice.
• Very attractive and keeps the building with its functional, yet historical aspects - turning lemons into lemonade.
• I like keeping the old building, although the costs seem astronomical. You could do "unfinished" loft studio space for artist and public, non-profit art gallery.
• My concern is that the space won't be used fully - that some won't be rented. I like atrium (enclosed) idea.
• N/A
• Think I like it.
• General public use year-round would require a significant draw such as ECHO.
• This is the only plan that keeps the building. I have seen the inside, many years ago, and it could become a great place for shows, exhibitions, meetings, etc. With the proper sales job, that is, show the inside to the people, you would have a much easier time convincing people that this concept is the best one.
• This is a great old building - so I favor whatever scheme will retain as much of the existing exterior as possible. The other choices seem awfully BLAND!!
• The building is gorgeous and unique. The building excites. Yeah!!!
• Traffic problems with this concept as well.
• Keep the structure. Garden on roof. Restaurant on top floor. Sailing center on water level area. Museum (whatever) in middle floor. Put a band shell in the 42,000 sq.ft. adjacent.
• Tear it down. New construction will be more cost effective than retrofitting. Also traffic problems.
• Also works, as long as sailing center can remain.
• I like this idea if the building is kept. I think it is very important that the sailing center remain (in any concept). I love the green roof, and I like the idea of renovating an existing structure which already provide great waterfront views - it seems wasteful to build something from scratch.
• I like the openness at the top. Would love to see the whole building kept and re-use for museum and lake use.
• Demolish entire building. Create waterfront park with band shell and sailing center.
• Yes. Public.
• No.
• Ahh---no.
• Best! A use that does not require much parking. Keep the structure.
• This best preserves the existing building and gives the most possible choice in uses. This or #3 are my favorites.
• This is the best, as it is a synthesis of all the ideas basically. The building should not be demolished because it is an integral part of the town. This allows more park space, area for more cultural development or public offices and allows a part of the town's history to remain and be converted into usable public space.
• Not as good as Option 2.
• No commercial!
• Ugly - tear it down.
• No.
• I support this concept. It keeps the flavor of the lake with the sailing center, yet enhances the use for people who do not sail. Also maintains open space for future needs.
• Good for all residents. Retain the original structure and history.
• No.
• Maintains existing building with opportunity for offices in tower.

• We support the presence of the sailing center at the site and think that any final design should include the center.
• It makes sense to use the foundation and perhaps lower floor of the building.
• It does not seem to make sense to make this area a park given that it is effectively cut off from the main part of the waterfront and probably would receive few visitors.
• We are in favor of the multi-use design that includes an aquatic center. We think that a public swimming pool is one thing that Burlington really needs. We realize that this option has the biggest price tag, but perhaps there are innovative ways to fund part of the construction costs.
• This space is a missed opportunity if it doesn't draw people year-round. Concept #2 provides that.
• Save the building. Incorporate more parking and public bathrooms.
• Expect all need more public parking. Wider access road. Want most community use.
• Thanks for the chance to comment.
• This viewing day was very poorly advertised. Need to get more of public aware and educated. This is a major decision!
• Go back to square one and have the group that developed Boston and Baltimore Harbors re-evaluate the potential here in Burlington Harbor.
• Parking - traffic moving easily in and out - big concern.